tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921692378523167792.post3945430088327899961..comments2023-11-02T15:31:41.417+06:00Comments on Contrarian Comment: CIA Drones: The Game Is Falling ApartZeemaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06569356440176591602noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921692378523167792.post-39583607212798098442008-11-03T15:18:00.000+06:002008-11-03T15:18:00.000+06:00Brig Simon and Pavocavlry are particularly invited...Brig Simon and Pavocavlry are particularly invited to comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921692378523167792.post-4631137429114993732008-11-04T00:26:00.000+06:002008-11-04T00:26:00.000+06:00it certainly does seem that NATO and Pakistan disa...it certainly does seem that NATO and Pakistan disagree on the issue of Mullah Nazir. An interesting article!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921692378523167792.post-91417132747175801032008-11-04T06:02:00.000+06:002008-11-04T06:02:00.000+06:00Zahid Hamid is the last person i would agree with,...Zahid Hamid is the last person i would agree with, although his analysis in this article is correct to certain extent but as always he has to give it 'tadka' of Zionism. Otherwise his project 'Khilafat' might not work.<br><br>1. Pro Pakistan tribal chiefs were eliminated long time back when CIA got permission from Musharraff to operate in Tribal areas.<br><br>2. The theory of 'good' and 'bad' talibans is a reality. Although Baitullah Mehsud came from Guantanamo bay and started recruiting fighters, neither ISI nor CIA acted against him these rimes, his arms, communications and funds are driven from Kabul, both CIA and RAW are supporting him.<br><br>3. As far the theory of 'falling apart is concerned', I wont agree with it, Pakistan Army has damaged CIA backed Taliban to certain extent and bought most of the tribes. But seeing it as a success is incorrect.<br><br>4. Looking at the history of Tribal belt, we can see that they have always sold their loyalities and can sell any thing for money. Dangerous thing is that Pakistan has to depend on war-lords who can sell their loyalities.<br><br>5. The myth that Tribal people are brave or something like exceptional fighters is also incorrect as, they have an advantage of 'battle ground' but we can see that since British rule, a single 'political agent' is enough to control the entire herd of tribal chiefs with very little funds. So today they are selling themselves to Pakistan Army and tomorrow they can go in to hands of someone else.<br><br>6. Unless Pakistani forces have complete control over area and not dependent on war lords, it can hardly said to be an achievement. Furthermore, CIA plan is exectly the same: 'to push the entire region in to hands of war lords' and accept a 'controlled war-lordism' as per statement of US general.<br><br>7. Indian always had reservations over Pakistani influence in Afghanistan. Her foreign policy was to a certain extent hijacked when USA lift sanctions after nuclear tests. Indians are dreaming of having influence over Afghan region for strategic purposes and actively involved in backing 'Baitullah'.<br><br>8. CIA is also playing double game with India, the recent statement by Indians to deploy 150,000 troops in Afghanistan reflects that CIA wants to drag India in to Afghanistan. Taliban as yet have not attacked India but once Indian troops started operating, it will become a battle ground which will destablise entire region.....why? Every economist suggests that next area of growth and investment is going to be Asia. <br><br>8. Israel has no interest in the game so far as doing so would mean helping Iran indirectly which also wish to have some influence in Afgahanistan and said to be involved in the game to certain extent.<br><br>Botomline is that entire CIA plan for Afghanistan, FATA and Baluchistan is to put the region under warlords who sell their loyalties to highest bidder and a weak puppet government in Kabul, which can help USA to secure energy route, curtail China, have control over Pakistani nukes and at the same time push entire region in to instability which will ultimately damage Chinese interests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921692378523167792.post-73743548931457817852008-11-04T19:09:00.000+06:002008-11-04T19:09:00.000+06:00Zee sahib,I will leave some comments (for whatever...Zee sahib,<br><br>I will leave some comments (for whatever they are worth) tomorrow. A great write-up though.<br><br>Just one small word for now. Basically, India's interests are in keeping the status quo in the sub-continent. India will certainly like to see Pak denuclearised and "managed" but not destablised.<br><br>RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921692378523167792.post-38045281051033814262008-11-05T07:39:00.000+06:002008-11-05T07:39:00.000+06:00Majumdar,I agree India's interests are in keeping ...Majumdar,<br><br>I agree India's interests are in keeping Pakistan's territorial status-quo intact, but it is also in India's interests to remove all irritants in becoming a regional hegemonic power. If Pakistan was to be denuclearized and its army undermined by CIA, India would have a lot to gain.<br><br>Awaiting your comments. In the meantime, what do you think about Observer's comment at No. 8 re deployment of 150,000 Indian troops in Afghanistan?<br><br>RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921692378523167792.post-44489878191484932202008-11-05T12:30:00.000+06:002008-11-05T12:30:00.000+06:00Zee sahib,India's interests to remove all irritant...Zee sahib,<br><br><i>India's interests to remove all irritants in becoming a regional hegemonic power.</i><br><br>Well, to tell you the truth "Indian hegemony" won't amount to much apart from the fact that Pakistan will have to suffer some loss of face. Paks are ghairatmand folks so they will be upset, but in practical terms it wont amount to much. India has enuff troubles of its own to be doing much damage to its neighbours. If at all anything this will just cool down temperatures, increase regional trade and maybe even result in some sort of "azaadi" to Kashmir in maybe another 3-4 years time.<br><br><i>If Pakistan was to be denuclearized and its army undermined</i><br><br>India will welcome denuclearisation but will probably not like to see the Pak army undermined. In a way Pak Army does act as a buffer against the mayhem in A'stan.<br><br><i>deployment of 150,000 Indian troops in Afghanistan</i><br><br>No, I dont think that is going to happen. Indians have bad memories of what happened in Jaffna in 1987. If they dont intervene in SL, much less in A'stan.<br><br>Besides, dont forget, the Hindoo is basically a coward.<br><br>The other point I was hoping to make but cant seem to convince you is that there is no such thing as a good Taliban. Religious militancy will get Pakistan nowhere, at least not the Pakistan that Jinnah sahib had dreamt of. And as history is proof, any state which has given up monopoly of violence has eventually paid a heavy price for it. Whatever (dubious) benefits that supporting Talib types (which wud include their Indian counterparts like Bajrang Dal as well) has, will more than offset by the costs.<br><br>RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com